Obama is moving cautiously and most Americans probably prefer it that way
I saw Pat Buchanan today give many reasons Americans should just be staying away from the conflict altogether, and a bit of debate about that with other panelists.
The example of Egypt-- a democratically elected government that is enormously unpopular with a large segment of the Egyptians and then the intervention of the Army there came up..
I have asked friends of mine to ponder this and also events in Ukraine and tell me what they think and will give their replies when they are capable of telling me.. ( I have also asked them to think more about the issue of Millenials who are not white, educated or urban).
Anyway
2 February 2014
Last updated at 18:54 ET
Dmytro Bulatov has travelled to Lithuania, which has promised to treat any protesters injured in the crisis.
He appeared on TV last week with a gash on his face and part of his ear cut off. He said he had been held and beaten for eight days.
His case became a new rallying point for protesters, who want President Viktor Yanukovych to resign.
Mr Bulatov arrived in Vilnius in the early hours of Monday morning and was immediately taken to hospital, the Baltic News Service reports.
Thousands are currently in Maidan square in Kiev, a focal point for the protesters.
Mr Yanukovych has offered a number of concessions and his cabinet quit their jobs.
'Tragic situation'
Beaten protest leader Dmytro Bulatov leaves Ukraine
A Ukrainian protest leader who says he was abducted and tortured has left the country for medical treatment.
He appeared on TV last week with a gash on his face and part of his ear cut off. He said he had been held and beaten for eight days.
His case became a new rallying point for protesters, who want President Viktor Yanukovych to resign.
Mr Bulatov arrived in Vilnius in the early hours of Monday morning and was immediately taken to hospital, the Baltic News Service reports.
Thousands are currently in Maidan square in Kiev, a focal point for the protesters.
Mr Yanukovych has offered a number of concessions and his cabinet quit their jobs.
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Dmytro Bulatov
- A leader of AutoMaidan, a group of drivers associated with protests
- Reportedly took to stage in Independence Square on several occasions
- Vanished on 22 January, reappeared on 30 January, injured and saying he had been kidnapped and tortured
But the demonstrators, many of whom want to see closer ties with the EU rather than Russia, have not been placated.
Mr Bulatov was a leader of a group called Automaidan, made up
mainly of drivers who would protect the protest camps and blockade
streets.
He went missing on 22 January and re-emerged eight days later on the outskirts of Kiev.
He told the media he had been "crucified" by his abductors, who he could not identify other than to say they had Russian accents.
Opposition politicians Western diplomats expressed outrage at the incident.
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton condemned the "deliberate targeting of organisers and participants of peaceful protests".
On Sunday, opposition leader Vitali Klitschko said European diplomats had helped to arrange medical care outside Ukraine.
"Now everything is done in that regard to finalise everything and give him a possibility to leave abroad for further treatment," he said.
On Friday, interior ministry investigators had turned up at the hospital, apparently with a court order for the detention of Mr Bulatov.
But protesters had already arrived and prevented the investigators from questioning him.
Officials had suggested his account of the abduction might have been fabricated.
"The only thing he has is a scratch on one of his cheeks," Foreign Minister Leonid Kozhara told broadcaster al-Jazeera.
"It looks like the alleged story that he was kidnapped and tortured is not absolutely true."
The ministry later said the comments did not reflect his "real attitude to the tragic situation", and said the minister wished Mr Bulatov a speedy recovery.
He went missing on 22 January and re-emerged eight days later on the outskirts of Kiev.
He told the media he had been "crucified" by his abductors, who he could not identify other than to say they had Russian accents.
Opposition politicians Western diplomats expressed outrage at the incident.
EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton condemned the "deliberate targeting of organisers and participants of peaceful protests".
On Sunday, opposition leader Vitali Klitschko said European diplomats had helped to arrange medical care outside Ukraine.
"Now everything is done in that regard to finalise everything and give him a possibility to leave abroad for further treatment," he said.
On Friday, interior ministry investigators had turned up at the hospital, apparently with a court order for the detention of Mr Bulatov.
But protesters had already arrived and prevented the investigators from questioning him.
Officials had suggested his account of the abduction might have been fabricated.
"The only thing he has is a scratch on one of his cheeks," Foreign Minister Leonid Kozhara told broadcaster al-Jazeera.
"It looks like the alleged story that he was kidnapped and tortured is not absolutely true."
The ministry later said the comments did not reflect his "real attitude to the tragic situation", and said the minister wished Mr Bulatov a speedy recovery.
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