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A DESIRE NAMED STREETCAR

Brooklyn-Queens Streetcar Will Get De Blasio's Endorsement

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[Image via Friends of the Brooklyn Queens Connector]
A proposed streetcar that would connect Brooklyn and Queens just got a big backer: According to the New York Times, Mayor Bill de Blasio will endorse the idea in his State of the City address, happening tonight at Lehman College in the Bronx. The proposal calls for a 17-mile system of above-ground rails that would run along the East River waterfront, linking Astoria to Sunset Park through neighborhoods like Long Island City, Greenpoint, Dumbo, and Red Hook. 
According to the Times, the streetcar would travel at a speed of about 12 miles per hour—at that rate, it would connect Greenpoint to Dumbo in a little less than half an hour. The projected cost: $2.5 billion. 
In an interview with the Times, Alicia Glen, the deputy mayor in charge of economic development, said the system is a way of "mapping transit to the future of New York." The neighborhoods that the streetcar would connect (Long Island City, Williamsburg, Downtown Brooklyn, Sunset Park) are places where developers are investing heavily in residential and commercial development, particularly in the way of office space. And the current options—MTA buses, or some combination of the G train and multiple transfers—are less than ideal. "The old transportation system was a hub-and-spoke approach, where people went into Manhattan for work and came back out," Glen told the Times.
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[Image via Friends of the Brooklyn Queens Connector]
But she also acknowledged that the project would face "significant engineering challenges." For one, the streetcar is designed to run alongside existing traffic, including buses and cars. Current renderings don't show a barrier between the different methods of transportation, though those could be added if the system comes to fruition. There are several other hurdles to cross before the project could move forward: It would need to go through the public review process, for one, and would require input from the many neighborhoods the streetcar would service. 
Of course, one particularly large hurdle wouldn't be there: Because the streetcar would operate outside of the MTA's purview and within the city, it would not require state (ahem, Governor Cuomo) approval. And the proposal already has some big-name backers in the real estate world, including Doug Steiner and Two Trees's Jed Walentas (both of whom are working on big developments that the streetcar would connect—Steiner at the Brooklyn Navy Yard, and Walentas in basically all of Dumbo). Tucker Reed, the president of the Downtown Brooklyn Partnership, namechecked the "pockets of unprecedented job and housing growth" as a reason to bring the project to life. "This streetcar line can be the catalyst to extend that opportunity to tens of thousands of New Yorkers in many more neighborhoods," he said in a statement. 
If the plan moves forward, construction wouldn't begin until 2019 at the earliest, with the streetcar operating by 2024, potentially.
· Mayor de Blasio to Propose Streetcar Line Linking Brooklyn and Queens [NYT]
· Nonprofit Wants 17-Mile Streetcar Linking Brooklyn & Queens[Curbed]
COMMENTS (28 EXTANT)
If it doesn't have its own dedicated lane for the entire run, it'll be useless. Double-parked cars and delivery trucks will hold up the entire streetcar line if you let them.
This could be a tourist attraction.
I'm all for something new when it comes to transportation, but this has many issues. 12 miles per hour? Cmon now. Unless it's elevated, you're making things worse, not better.
Have they even research potential ridership numbers? This is such a vanity project -- I can think of dozens of transit issues in the city that should have priority over this nonsense.
@stache: Only if they are pulled by horses -- but then they might go faster that 12 mph.
What are the odds that De blasio has any intelligence, amazingly he is able to see through that haze of voodoo to do something right?!$.
@Captain Cranky Pants: Agreed. Average bike speeds are about 10 mph. Instead of heavy infrastructure for rail why not just create a separated bus lane that is not accessible by other vehicles and then work with the DOT to have the buses connected to the traffic lights so that the buses have priority over traffic at lights. If that's not possible, then at least have cross gates that come down when buses approach red lights and the bus can then proceed through red lights when the gates are done... 
I would be all for this, if we could ignore all neighborhood input (irrelevant and time-consuming) and not run an EIS (pointless in the city, expensive, and time-consuming) and get a dedicated lane where terrible Brooklyn drivers may not venture and free transfers from the subway. A man can dream. 
Anything and everything to dump personal automobiles, and riding a Brooklyn waterfront is a top tourist attraction, brilliant?!$.
Public transportation would be much better if it could somehow be separated from public input. 
People want ineffective things (ferries, streetcars) and complain to no end about relatively effective and economic things (subways, buses). The first are not a substitute for the latter; it's not even in the same order of magnitude of effectiveness. 
Privatize this and rope in some real improvements to the deal (bike lanes, or something) and just let it be a tourist thing.
I know one business in Sunset Park that this will be a problem with. There is an active car wash that takes over the sidewalk and one (sometimes one and a half) lanes of street traffic to use for their business. I could see them parking the cars they just washed in front of the tram. It would also be difficult for the large volume of cars going in and out. I know it's just one car wash but these guys are arrogant and will be crassholes so the city would have to continuously monitor them and ticket them. 
Queens drivers are some of the worst, to be borough specific, that I've ever (nearly) run into. A lot would have to change for this to be at all feasible. I hope they DO discuss it and come up with something that will actually work and be beneficial. They need to be having this conversation. We, NYC, should be at the very forefront of all transportation, planning and technology and we're not.
Come to think of it, there are a ton of businesses in Sunset park that use the entrances from off the street. This intersection would have to be solved. Maybe their rendering should have the tram (or bus) directly under the BQE where it doesnt block egress/entrance to these businesses...
Crappy planning - 12 miles per hour is a joke! The streetcar would need a dedicated lane and even then, what do you do with the traffic lights? As Cranky says, it would make things worse, not better! And the taxpayers would need to foot the bill to the tune of....$2.5 BILLION??? Are you nuts?
@AUTISTIC?$!.: you said it, DiBlasio has no intelligence. He desperately tries to save his ass with crazy proposals but he knows he is a one term mayor. He has managed to piss off everyone!
Yes 10011. running this under BQE makes sense. It's available space, also already covered for waiting in bad weather.

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