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Monday, November 9, 2015

Gizmodo- Tinder for Fighting



I Have a Few Questions About This New "Tinder for Fighting" App

I’ve never been in a fight. I’ve been on the receiving end of a number of punches, but engaging in physical violence has never been my thing. That’s just one of many reasons I’m puzzled by Rumblr, a matchmaking app for face pounding that launches today.
Rumblr bills itself as a “Tinder for fighting.” (I shit you not: That’s a direct quote from the company’s website.) You set up a little profile and add stats like your age, height, weight, and specialty (“karate, other”). Then you swipe left to ignore other users looking for violence or swipe right to incite violence. If you’re a match—this is the best part—you’re invited to schedule a fight or “pussy out.” There’s also a chat feature for pre-fight tracking, as well as a map feature so you can “Explore fights happening near you.”
I Have a Few Questions About This New "Tinder for Fighting" App
Clearly, somebody is trolling us. This whole set up screams viral marketing campaign, despite the fact that the developers behind Rumblr insist they’re serious about helping people beat up other people. Still, I have a few lingering questions about what’s going on here.
Is this illegal?
Assault and battery are definitely illegal. Depending on how the fight goes, either participant could be charged with one or both of the crimes. Fighting in public could also amount to disorderly conduct charges as well as unlawful public assembly charges.
But what if nobody gets hurt? Is it still illegal?
You don’t have to hurt anyone to get charged with assault. If you schedule a Rumblr date to take place on a random street corner in Manhattan, which the app’s website seems to suggest, the police will almost certainly come. Even if the event is just “casualty-free casual fighting” as Rumblr advertises, cops don’t have much of a tolerance for any kind of fighting in public.
Why on Earth did Apple allow this in the App Store?
Important detail! Despite the cute little App Store logo on the website, Rumblr is not actually in the App Store. The November 9th release date is actually for a beta web application. The download site features a looping video from Fight Club as well as a doomsday-style countdown.
I Have a Few Questions About This New "Tinder for Fighting" App
Is it racist?
Judging by the fact that many of the images on the site feature white people fighting—or hoping to fight—black people, Rumblr does seem a little bit racist.
Is it also sexist?
Screenshots of the unreleased app show options to see “RumblrHER” and “RumblrGROUP” fights. You can assume that the former shows fights between women and the latter is for big brawls. It’s unclear if the app enables men to find women to beat up.
Who came up with this stupid idea?
The developers behind Rumblr are two self-described “recreational fighters” named Matt Henderson and Jack Kim. They recently told the Daily Mail, “We’ve been recreational fighters our entire lives and were tired of the inefficiencies that exist when trying to find someone to fight.” They operate out of WeWork, a co-working facility in downtown Manhattan.
No, but really, it’s a joke, right?
Henderson and Kim insist that they are “100-percent serious” about this idea. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if they were actually trying to drum up attention for their new chain of karate studios. Maybe they have an MMA clothing line coming out. Maybe they just love violence and want to help others love violence, too. It would be great if this turned out to be a big ruse. Perhaps it’s really a neighborhood watch program or some twisted anti-bullying campaign. Perhaps it’s just straight up trolling. Perhaps it is a joke after all.
It’s definitely a promotion for the Fight Club sequel, isn’t it?
It’s almost definitely not a promotion for a Fight Club sequel. Fight Club the movie is based on Fight Club the book by Chuck Palahniuk. There is a comic book sequel that Palahniuk is writing for Dark Horse, but it’s on issue #6. It would be weird for to start viral marketing for it now.
Wait, wasn’t Fight Club actually about capitalism colliding with schizophrenia?
That’s one interpretation.
Is this new app actually about capitalism colliding with schizophrenia?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • But what if nobody gets hurt? Is it still illegal?
    Actually
    I’m not sure about NYC, but in Nassau county my friend was attacked by a guy and the cops said they couldn’t do anything because she had no visible signs of the conflict.
    So in some areas, unless you’re bruised it’s not necessarily illegal.
    • That doesn’t make it legal, it just means that it was her word against his and, without other witnesses or evidence, it would be hard to convict, and many times police don’t want to make arrests without evidence. I am willing to bet she could still file charges with a magistrate, which is often what people have to do in domestic violence situations when the police won’t make an arrest and process the charges themselves.
      • There were witnesses, a whole neighborhood full of them, the guy is crazy and came yelling up a storm to claim take his “girlfriend” (not my friend) home with him against her own will. My friend was told her only option was to peruse it civilly. 

        3rd Degree Assault source

        Assault in the 3rd degree is a misdemeanor charge. It applies when the situation results in physical injury to someone else but that injury isn’t enough to qualify for a more serious assault offense.
        • It really depends on how your assualt laws are written. In Canada, its perfectly legal to have a fight with another willing participant as long as neither goes overboard. From our criminal code (emphasis mine):
          265. (1) A person commits an assault when
          • (awithout the consent of another person, he applies force intentionally to that other person, directly or indirectly;
          • (b) he attempts or threatens, by an act or a gesture, to apply force to another person, if he has, or causes that other person to believe on reasonable grounds that he has, present ability to effect his purpose; or
          • (c) while openly wearing or carrying a weapon or an imitation thereof, he accosts or impedes another person or begs.
          As pointed out in the article, cops will usually charge people who fight in public with disorderly conduct or disturbing the peace but the actual act of fighting between two willing people is not illegal.
          • Assault and battery are pretty universal crimes in the US. Whether the police will arrest someone and the prosecutors will pursue the arrestee is another matter.
            There are a whole lot of things that can be charged as a crime if the police feel like it, but most officers simply feel is either a waste of their time or not worth trying to sort out. 
            If they ignore a situation where one party was seriously injured, then they will probably be disciplined. If they ignore a situation where there is only eyewitness testimony and no visible injuries, then they probably will be okay.
          • I love that you can explore fights happening near you. Nothing on TV? Look for a bum fight in Temecula!
            This whole thing is great. Knock off name, knock off idea, poorly thought out legality. Looking forward to more coverage.
              • So many questions?
                • Can we place bets on fights (using bit-coin of course)?
                • In-app purchase for Five-Oh alerts?
                • Will this stop idiots from picking fights with those of us who do not ever want to fight?
                • Can I set up an account for my local bully and be his/her manager?
              • “Judging by the fact that many of the images on the site feature white people fighting—or hoping to fight—black people, Rumblr does seem a little bit racist.”
                This entire app is absurd, but I don’t get this particular issue. If they showed two white people, would that not be racist due to exclusion of other races? If they showed two black people, would that not be racist by implying black people like to fight? What, exactly, is the “correct” non-racist mix in this case?
                Their site includes a variety of racial mixes in their ridiculous screenshots. Can we (just for once, please) not try to invent a racial issue where none exists?
              • This app is a great idea.
                Why? Because only completely stupid people would use it. If stupid people choose to fight each other, hopefully one of the stupid people will kill the other stupid person, or cause enough bodily harm to the other stupid person that they won’t be able to do stupid things like this anymore.
                Case in point: The world will become a little less stupid with the stupid people wiping each other out.

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