Saturday, September 26, 2015

Gizmodo- Project Fi

Why I'll Probably Ditch My Carrier For Google's Project Fi

Why I'll Probably Ditch My Carrier For Google's Project Fi
One month ago, we tried Google’s experimental cell phone service. It was a disaster. But I guess the second time’s a charm. After spending two weeks with Project Fi in the San Francisco Bay Area, I’m just about ready to ditch my old carrier.

What’s Project Fi?

To recap, Project Fi is a new way to use a cellphone. It works like this:
1.) You buy a Nexus 6. Right now, they cost $350 completely unlocked.
2.) You buy a special Project Fi SIM card from Google. (They’re invite-only at the moment.) It arrives in the mail.
3.) You pop it into your new phone, and download the Fi app. Setup takes about five minutes.
4.) You prepay $20 for unlimited calls and texts, and $10 per GB of data—no matter how much or little you use. No overage fees. Any data you don’t use gets credited back to your account at $10/GB—right down to the dime.
5.) If anything goes wrong (other than an utter lack of service) press a button in the Fi app. A Google tech support person will call you
6, AKA The Big One) The key difference between Fi and your regular carrier, is that your phone will automatically switch between multiple different cellular networks and wifi to stay constantly connected—even if you go abroad. In the US, the service is a combination of T-Mobile and Sprint. Abroad, Google says it’ll work in over 120 different countries. International calls cost $0.20 a minute, but you can keep using your data at $10/GB as if you never left home.

I thought you said it was a disaster?

It was—for Darren, who had some serious issues. But my experience was pretty incredible, with a few important caveats.
Why I'll Probably Ditch My Carrier For Google's Project Fi


So what are the problems with Project Fi?

Okay, so you know how Google advertises Project Fi as a service that’ll always connect you to the fastest network available? They phrased it like this:
We developed new technology that gives you better coverage by intelligently connecting you to the fastest available network at your location whether it’s Wi-Fi or one of our two partner LTE networks. 
That’s just not remotely true in my experience.
I watched my phone like a hawk while driving around the SF Bay Area, riding Caltrain between San Francisco and San Jose, and during a 45 minute walk through the heart of downtown SF, and it was patently obvious that Fi isn’t intelligent enough to compare networks on the fly and switch to the one that’s fastest.
Several times I found that Fi had connected me to a wifi network that was substantially slower than Sprint or T-Mobile LTE at the same exact location. (I tested.) It’s cool that it was saving me money, but still.
And I also never, ever saw Fi switch from Sprint to T-Mobile or vice versa when I was dealing with 3G or HSPA connectivity. If the signal went out entirely, sure, it’d try to switch. (Or if I hit the Airplane Mode toggle to simulate the same effect.) But not on its own.
Why I'll Probably Ditch My Carrier For Google's Project Fi

Oh, and you can’t make a phone call and use cellular data at the same time. 
Oh, and occasionally incoming calls would go straight to voicemail without ringing. That’s kinda bad.
Oh, and even though Fi’s coverage map shows solid, unbroken 4G LTE coverage in every single area I visited (so do T-Mobile and Sprint’s own maps, by the way) I definitely saw a decent amount of slower HSPA and even some EV-DO while driving and on Caltrain.
Oh, and sometimes when I’d test my Fi phone on T-Mobile and an actual T-Mobile phone in the same exact location, the Fi phone would get responses back from servers and websites a good bit slower. It’d feel a hair less responsive.
Why I'll Probably Ditch My Carrier For Google's Project Fi


So if all of that sucked, why are you switching?

I don’t know about you, but I don’t make a lot of calls anymore, and my data usage varies dramatically from month to month. (Sometimes, I spend a lot of time on wifi.) I love the idea of having a cell phone bill that starts at just $30, and can stretch to whatever I need.
And if I’m being honest, the vast majority of the time I spent using Fi, I had an pretty solid connection. I measured Speedtest.net results on par with my Verizon phone most places I went. (Sometimes that meant crazy speeds of 42Mbps up and 20Mbps down, sometimes more like 12Mbps up and 3Mbps down, and yes, sometimes the needle would barely register.)
The only place where Fi was consistently worse was inside my own home—where I’ve got wifi anyhow.
The fact is, I’m tired of the bullshit and bloatware and locked-down Android smartphones that come with cellular carriers, and now that they aren’t subsidizing my next smartphone purchase, I’d already made up my mind to pay full price for an unlocked handset either way.
If we see some new Nexus phones on September 29th and if they’re suitably awesome and if they support Project Fi, I’m pretty sure Google will be my next cellular carrier. I mean, I guess I could switch sooner—but that Nexus 6 is just too damn big.

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  • I’ve had an invite for Project Fi since early to mid-June, but I didn’t want a Nexus 6. I also wasn’t impressed with the way Google handled Lollipop and have been a bit disenchanted since. In a bit, I’ll be going home to set up my new iPhone 6s Plus.
    If Project Fi ever works for the iPhone, then maybe I’ll consider it. But for the moment, it’s not that compelling of an option since it works with so few phones.
  • Straight Talk is $45 per month for unlimited everything and 5GB of high speed data and Cricket Wireless is like $35 per month for unlimited everything and 2GB of high speed data. Both use the ATT network.
    The thing that sets Fi apart doesn’t appear to be the cost but rather the switching between networks and WiFi calling which, in turn, could result in lower data usage and costs, but probably not too much.
    • Say you don’t use 5 gigs of data in a month. Like me I only ever use less than a gig except for very rare occasions. You could save ~$10 over Straight Talk. I’m assuming that these rates are the price before the regulatory fees which means you could save ~$5 over Cricket.
      All depends on your usage, there are better deals out there. Fi works for me, though. 
      • Or if T-Mobile is usable in your area, pay $30/month for unlimited text and data (up to 5GB of LTE) and 100 minutes a month. Granted, it’s not a lot of minutes but who talks anymore, right?
        • On Ting, for 500 min, 1000 texts, and 100 MB of data, I pay $33 a month for two smartphones, taxes included. We’re always on wifi, so we never get close to going over. This has saved us about $100 / month, which allowed us to get some nice unlocked phones. 
          • I recently switched to Cricket from Verizon. I was deciding between Cricket and Straight Talk. Both of them use AT&T’s network but Cricket offers a 10 GB data plan where Straight Talk tops out at 5 GB. Cricket also offers visual voicemail. 
            Well, turns out that Cricket throttles their download speed to 8 Mbps all the time, their visual voicemail app doesn’t work if your phone is connected to wifi, and they block mobile hotspot access for bring-your-own device users. 
            I found this out when I tried to see if mobile hotspot would work, and got an error message on the phone saying I needed to contact AT&T (whoops) to activate it on my account. The Cricket customer service rep informed me that even though Cricket offers mobile hotspot access for an additional $10/mo over the usual plan, it only is available on Cricket-sold phones, not bring-your-own. She actually suggested that if I ever wanted to use mobile hotspot, I should buy a phone from Cricket rather than use my own phone. “I know you might have a sentimental attachment to your phone, but you can get this feature with a Cricket phone.” 
            Needless to say I’m not 100% satisfied with having made this switch. 
          • Is there any future plan to open this up to other phones? I would like to test it on my OnePlus One. Anything that will shake up the current phone carriers is a plus to me.
              • They’re working on it. IIRC it requires a special piece of hardware to do some of the switching, hence why it’s not widely available.
                • I doubt it will ever work on your OnePlus One. If it opens up it’s going to require likely newer hardware (the radios inside) and that means it’s going to require a new device.
                  It’s already been confirmed that it can work on the new Moto X Pure Edition (the one that just came out). It isn’t officially supported but people have confirmed it works just fine.
                  Phones going forward will likely have the potential to work on Project Fi, but older devices are S.O.L.
                  • Is this special hardware in addition to radios that support both GSM and CDMA signals?
                    Because my new Moto X Pure Edition seems to support every LTE band under the sun, and I’d love to use it on Project Fi. 
                  • I was very excited to try Fi, but I really didn’t want a Nexus 6. I got the new Moto G, unlocked and have been very happy, except for a small bug where the phone unlocks without the passcode sometimes. I hope that the extend Fi to all unlocked phones soon.
                        • I’ve had my nexus 5 unlock by itself without me entering the pattern lock while I am driving home from work. I just swiped quickly started using the phone. It actually is really noticeable to me when it happens, which is extremely rare, because it is something that shouldn’t happen. I don’t think that’s just a moto g issue.
                          • You sure you don’t have the secure setting option turned on by accident. The one where you look at it, it recognizes your face then unlocks specifically. 
                          • The tablet you have to use as a phone is the reason I wouldn’t want to even try it. If they open it up to the Nexus 5x or other phones I am sure people will want to try it out. I’d consider it if the data transition is seamless when it switches and doesn’t leave you sitting without a connection for 10 seconds while it switches carriers or between wifi and cellular data.
                            Also, I’ve had my same phone number for 10 or so years now. Is that phone number treated the same on Fi? Like, do I tranfer my number to Google and then if I want to switch to a different carrier later do I transfer the number back?
                            Also, can you turn off that Fi Spy notification? A persistent notification would drive me nuts.
                            And can you choose to turn off wifi and not use wifi at all?
                            • Switching between data networks is exactly as it happens on other phones now between H/LTE/E/WiFi — Pretty much unnoticeable. Also, you can use a Nexus 5 — some limitations but plenty of info on the intertubes about how to do it.
                              • Phone number is treated the same; you port it just like you would between any other carriers. I’ve had my number for 17 years (not that its a contest) and would have been a huge deal for me to lose it.
                                Fi Spy is an Add-on application — not part of Project Fi.
                                You can turn off WiFi and only use Network if you wish (and vice versa, only use WiFi). WiFi only is pretty awesome as you can make phone calls in places where there is no cell service or cell service is restricted/forbidden.
                                • Cool. Thanks for the info. The wifi thing sounds pretty great. I work in the basement of a hospital. They have wifi but the only cell service that works is sprint due to a contract and in house antenna system they’ve set up. If Project Fi can make calls and send texts and stuff over wifi that would something that would definitely interest me. 
                                  Edit - Wait, Project Fi should work here anyway due to it being Sprint and T-mobile... I really think I’ll check it out if the new Nexus 5x is supported. 
                                  • I’m pretty certain the 5X and 6P will both be supported. Likely all future Nexus phones, as long as Project Fi stays in business.
                                  • I’m just putting this out there: I pay 3.99 €/month: unlimited calls and SMS in my provider network. 600 min. and 3000 sms to other providers. + 1.45 €/month 1 GB internets. + statistically best free wifi in the world in my country so that 1 GB just for emergency.. 
                                  • I hate that Fi states “Fastest Connection” b/c, like you pointed out, that is in practice ridiculously incorrect. What it really TRIES to do is give you the ‘BEST’ connection, which is awfully subjective. I put in a Fi Suggestion to have a user configurable setting where you can choose from something like the following.
                                    -Standard Settings (like what they have now)
                                    -Fastest Internet
                                    -Strongest Signal
                                    -Most Wi-Fi (cheapest?)
                                    etc
                                    That way you can get switched in the ‘Best Way’ each user decides they prefer.
                                    “Oh, and you can’t make a phone call and use cellular data at the same time.”
                                    That’s only true when you are connected to Sprint.
                                  • The subsidy drops are going to make people FLOCK to this plan. If a flagship phone is going to start costing $350 no matter what my carrier is and they’ll charge me pro-rated data, this is a no-brainer. None of the cons above seem like long-term issues. 
                                    iPhones are the only thing that will keep other carriers in the market. I mean heck, I’m an AT&T subscriber and they don’t even try to get me into an Android phone - just IPHONE IPHONE YOU MUST GETS ON OUR NEXT PLAN SWEET DELICIOUS INTEREST PURE PROFIT MWAHAHAHA
                                    • They actually make MUCH less profit on iphones vs android phones. Apple sets their prices; other manufacturers let them set their own.
                                    • Wait so Google released something that sounded really really awesome but then didn’t quite perform? Shocked.
                                        • Oh, Project Fi is absolutely really awesome. However, yes the network switching claims have been less then accurate. It has, in my experience, though, been overall just fine. I have not had any problems to date with Fi.
                                        • I have a nexus 5 and also received an invite... but the 6 was just too big and expensive to switch to in less than 2 years... also based on my usage a tmobile $30 account was more useful but still! International roaming is pretty tempting! Hopefully the new Nexii will be compatible and price competitive and the same size as the current 5... 
                                          • You can use Nexus 5, just not officially supported. There is a limitation on one of the radio bands I think as well — plenty of info on the tubes about how to get it setup. Good luck!



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